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Carlo Hansen
11-06-2006, 11:35 AM
Hi

I need very urgent some liquid reciever`s with an internal
spiral heat exchanger inside. The zise could be 8 - 25 and
35 litres. Heat echanger tube could be 5/8" - 7/8" and
1 1/8" made of steel.
Does anybody know if this is a standard component or do
i have to let them produce specialy.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Andy
11-06-2006, 01:04 PM
Hi

I need very urgent some liquid reciever`s with an internal
spiral heat exchanger inside. The zise could be 8 - 25 and
35 litres. Heat echanger tube could be 5/8" - 7/8" and
1 1/8" made of steel.
Does anybody know if this is a standard component or do
i have to let them produce specialy.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Hi Carlo:)

Try ESK
http://www.esk-schultze.de/04-Suction_Accumulators_11-15_.pdf

Kind Regards Andy:)

Carlo Hansen
11-06-2006, 02:47 PM
Hi Andy;

Thanks for the reply. I have been locking at something like
you descripted. My problem is that all superheating take place in the liquid reciever, because I am running a 2 step
trotling system with a full flodded evaporator.
This system demand a realy big heatexchanger in the liquid line.
For 5/8" it must be 7,5 Mtr. - 7/8" must be 11 Mtr. and finaly the 1 1/8" most be about 16 Mtr in lenght.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Andy
11-06-2006, 03:59 PM
Hi Andy;

Thanks for the reply. I have been locking at something like
you descripted. My problem is that all superheating take place in the liquid reciever, because I am running a 2 step
trotling system with a full flodded evaporator.
This system demand a realy big heatexchanger in the liquid line.
For 5/8" it must be 7,5 Mtr. - 7/8" must be 11 Mtr. and finaly the 1 1/8" most be about 16 Mtr in lenght.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Carlo:)
your system is basically a Low Pressure Receiver (LPR)
system.

This is a liquid over feed system, using a suction accumulator to boil off the excess, subcooling the main liquid line in the process.

What you need is an LPR, this is a suction accumulator with a shell and tube heat exchanger below. The cold liquid in the accumulator drains into the shell of the shell and tube heat exchanger, the warm liquid from the condenser feeds into the tubes of the S&T boiling off the cold liquid.

You will have to get one made, but it is just a suction accumulator coupled up to a shell and tube heat exchanger, both can be off the shelf, all be it with extra connections joining them.

Kind Regards Andy:)

Jeppe_Hansen
14-06-2006, 05:24 PM
Hi Carlo!

The liquid receiver/heatexchanger, that you are looking for, is a patented system! I know that, because I'm using such vessels in my cooling designs. Actually the same sizes, you describe above. I don't hope, that you are trying to make an illegal copy!
The man, who invented this system, is danish as your self. Maybe you should look in danish homepages.

Best regards
Jeppe

Carlo Hansen
14-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Dear Mr. Jeppe.S.Hansen

I will please ask you to take a look in your private mail at this forum.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Jeppe_Hansen
15-06-2006, 07:44 AM
Hi Carlo

Please look in your inbox, for private message.

Best regards

Jeppe

Carlo Hansen
15-06-2006, 02:37 PM
Hi Jeppe

Thanks for your mail, I am glad that we do not have to
discuss the copyright of this system, and since we both
use and know the system very well, I think we may say
that Mr. Zimmerman has done a well and propper job by the
development of this system.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen

Andy
15-06-2006, 11:27 PM
Hi Jeppe

Thanks for your mail, I am glad that we do not have to
discuss the copyright of this system, and since we both
use and know the system very well, I think we may say
that Mr. Zimmerman has done a well and propper job by the
development of this system.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen
The low pressure receiver I am speaking about was patented by Forbes Pearson or Antony Brown in the 1960,s. So either the Danish guy copied them or they copied him.
Please share this information with us all;)

Kind Regards Andy:)

Jeppe_Hansen
16-06-2006, 12:28 PM
The low pressure receiver I am speaking about was patented by Forbes Pearson or Antony Brown in the 1960,s. So either the Danish guy copied them or they copied him.
Please share this information with us all;)

Kind Regards Andy:)

Hi Andy.
The liquid receiver / heat exchanger Carlo and I has been discussed is not a low pressure receiver or a suction accumulator!
It is more a combination between a regulator (without moving parts), to control the amount of refrigerant in a full floated evaporator/evaporators and a liquid receiver.
I really do not believe, that something has been copied!

Best regards
Jeppe

Carlo Hansen
16-06-2006, 01:18 PM
Hi Andy

I can tell you that this system is not a copye from existing systems.
You can take a look at this link:

http://www.wulffdata.dk/

if yoy want more information, you will have to contact Mr.
Lars Zimmerman.

Best regards
Carlo Hansen