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cadwaladr
04-11-2017, 04:42 AM
I know it maybe an old chestnut,but what are the rules on this I know about the halfords etc issue on 134a but I am talking about larger cylinders the pressed steel type ,tried to look up advice on Google but there seems to be conflicting answers ie if the disposable cylinders is made of thicker material it's just a question to ease my troubled mind as I am seeing the old thin type for sale in various places.

monkey spanners
04-11-2017, 01:56 PM
I think the thing is the cylinder needs to be refillable to be sold, even if you are going to chuck it away after use. The latest halfords ones i believe are returnable for a deposit supposedly to be refilled.

Rob White
04-11-2017, 04:01 PM
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Disposable cylinders are pressed steel and have a rounded
bottom, they come in a cardboard box and don't stand upright
on there own without the box.

They have a cheap valve on the top and from memory they have
Not to be reused stamped on them or disposable cylinder do not
reuse.

Rob

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al
05-11-2017, 06:04 PM
According to this article they are banned for sale, i've not seen one in a wholesalers in years.

https://www.agas.com/insights-news/news--renewed-call-to-ban-disposable-refrigerant-cylinders-in-sa/

chemi-cool
05-11-2017, 06:15 PM
I just press them back to a metal sheet and sell them as steel scrap once a year. The money I get pays for a cup of coffee and a cake....

Icemankool
22-11-2017, 11:19 PM
Your answer is in 842/2006 (article 9 in reference to "annexe 2") and 517/2014 (article 11 in reference to "annexe 3"). ALL non refillable containers for f-gases are banned throughout the EU as from July 2007...
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2006:161:0001:0011:EN:PDF
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32014R0517&from=EN

cadwaladr
23-11-2017, 02:42 AM
Still available on eBay? Who polices the rules see them complain to ebay asap!

cadwaladr
23-11-2017, 03:26 AM
Does a wholesalers need certification to supply refrigerant,in essence do wholesalers need to have certification to supply refrigerant I know you need it to purchase it but do you need certs to sell it ?

Rob White
23-11-2017, 09:09 AM
Still available on eBay? Who polices the rules see them complain to ebay asap!

They are trying. If you watch them they remove ASAP as soon as they find out
also in the small print of those sites you might find they don't actually sell to the UK.


Does a wholesalers need certification to supply refrigerant,in essence do wholesalers need to have certification to supply refrigerant I know you need it to purchase it but do you need certs to sell it ?


Yes

The wholesalers have the same regulations as companies do and they have
to keep records of all gas usage for inspection by the relevant authorities.

Regards

Rob

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