New flarings Spin Tool

[hookster]

Hi Guys & gals
We got the new flarings spin tools into our workshop to test. I have to give my opinion as I found them difficult to use and a few problems with the flare and swage.

The swage tool picked up burrs inside the copper tube and the flare tool made an awful flare.
The copper is hard to hold as it gets very hot and the flare is distorted with an exaggerated cone on the flare.

As i was not the only one to use it, we got it tested by three different engineers and our opinion is that it is not worth the money and the time saved over an actual flaring tool is just not worth it.
http://www.flaringspin.com/

I would appreciate someone elses opinion on these tools and even after watching the you tube videos we cant get the same quality flare and swages repeated in actual working applications.

[FaultCode]

First I've seen of it and unlikely now to ever use it.

My thought is that it only covers the smaller sizes and you have to carry a fully charged drill around with you when installing.

[Grizzly]

Brilliant post hookster.

If the video is to be believed, my first term at college was wasted doing flair after flare by hand.
Some may entertain this idea.
I just hope I am not around to witness the joint failures.
" Spin!" says it all.
Grizzly

[PaulZ]

Hi Hookster
I am with Grizzly on this one. My question is how do you make sure the drill is square to the pipe when doing a flare or swage. I would think both would end up a bit ordinary, the swage joint could end up being a bit sloppy.
I watched the video and they make it look easy but you could see the flare was not made correctly as when it was tightened I reckon he got at least 1-1/2 turns on the nut, to me this says the flare wasn't made properly and tightening the nut made the flare conform to the fitting, and where is the oil.
I wouldn't use them, probably OK for water flare, I would always use a proper flaring tool.
Regards
Paul

[cadwaladr]

I have an eccentric tool works for me,this one seems quick but not quite as good in our industry it may appeal to the ac guys but count me out!

[chemi-cool]

Tried it a few times, expensive, not a good flare, tube gets too hot, will only last for a certain number of flares.

Not in my school.

[hyperion]

Have not tried it, but watching the video this seems to be more of a gimmick as it would appear to be difficult to ensure that everything is squared up properly. As chemi-cool says, wonder how long the adapter lasts. Not going to waste money on it.

[MikeHolm]

I have the swager unit and it has been fine so far but I have only used it on smaller tubing (less than 5/8"). I didn't buy the flare one as the Ridgid swivel unit is great. If they could make that into a drill powered tool it would kick ass.

[hookster]

I like you also choose the Ridgid eccentric flare tool as the best in business.
The spin tools just dont add up in my book and a lever expander is far easier to use than the spin tool.

I just wanted to pass my impression on to others so they dont waste their hard earned cash on gimmicks!

[Mavricks Choice]

Rigid tool is great in my book!