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Zpoint
26-03-2015, 03:06 AM
Does any model of VOGT tube ice machine require 500 lbs of r22? Not sure of model number, will get it tomorrow, but I smell bull____. $18,000 to replace 30hp compressor? Used 500lbs r22? Come on! What do you think about these numbers?

monkey spanners
26-03-2015, 05:59 PM
Where did the old R22 go? it could have been put back in after the compressor change i would think.
Seems a lot of refrigerant, but i am not familiar with the equipment to know. Maybe worth calling Vogt and asking their tech department.

RANGER1
26-03-2015, 07:57 PM
http://www.vogtice.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/P34F-Service-Manual-11-19-12.pdf

Could be worse this one takes 2500lb see page 32 5.2
http://www.vogtice.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/P24F-SERVICE-MANUAL-11-19-12.pdf

This one is 1200lb

PaulZ
26-03-2015, 10:45 PM
Hi MS
Could have had a leak and this could have contributed to the compressor failure. We are only getting the end result from Zpoint. Is the $18k for compressor, refrigerant, labour etc, if so probably OK, just the R22 alone would be way more then that in Aust.
Regards
Paul

Zpoint
27-03-2015, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the reply's.

monkey spanners
27-03-2015, 09:54 PM
Hi MS
Could have had a leak and this could have contributed to the compressor failure.

Indeed. We are only getting one side of the story, though 500lbs seems a lot of refrigerant for a system with 30hp compressor, but as i said i am not familiar with the equipment nor all the steps that were necessary to make the repair.

Magoo
30-03-2015, 04:11 AM
A 20 Tonne Vogt with flooded vertical barrel will hold truck loads of liquid, in HX and add system liquid as well. The HX vertical probably 4 metres high and 1.2 metres diameter.
System likely to have multi compressors, so clean up cost and replacement of failed compressor plus top up R22, sounds like a reasonably priced job.
magoo