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Kadders
13-09-2014, 07:17 AM
Hi,
I'm looking to emigrate to Australia. I have looked at the Skilled Occupations List.
Does anyone know what Transport Refrigeration Engineer would come under?
Thanks

Magoo
13-09-2014, 07:53 AM
Trucks, buses, trains , cars , containers, aircraft . If it moves it is chilled or frozen or air conditioned. Australia is hot. Plus they call refrigeration people mechanics.

RANGER1
13-09-2014, 09:47 AM
Trucks, buses, trains , cars , containers, aircraft . If it moves it is chilled or frozen or air conditioned. Australia is hot. Plus they call refrigeration people mechanics.

Magoo we call ourselves refrigeration technicians these days.
Sounds more technical.
Like office administrator (receptionist).

install monkey
13-09-2014, 12:30 PM
like a product placement specialist- shelf stacker!;)

Kadders
13-09-2014, 01:58 PM
like a product placement specialist- shelf stacker!;)

When you look at the anzsco code list it says refrigeration and air conditioning mechanic but when you reading the description it only say industrial,domestic and commercial y does it not mention transport?
Thanks

install monkey
13-09-2014, 06:51 PM
342111
Airconditioning and Refrigeration Mechanic



closest thing i can find

gravy258
15-09-2014, 10:45 AM
get the employer to sponsor you, where do you want to go, and who would you like to work for ? (dealer or independent)

swampy84
11-10-2014, 05:00 AM
That's right mate refrig and a/c mechanic.
Also once you are here they will make you pay $ to get a restricted electrical licence
As UK trade qualifications aren't recognised here.
We are only allowed to disconnect and reconnect refrigeration / ac equipment only.
Anything else by law we aren't allowed to touch and is all an electricians responsibility.
It's extremely heavily regulated, makes the govt a ****load of money and all backwards really.
Also you need to get a refrigerant handling licence. More money to the govt

mikeref
11-10-2014, 09:32 AM
Swampy, Depends on where you are in OZ with regards to restricted electrical regulations.
Queensland has a system whereby the is no grey area and one receives a rap over the knuckles from Brisbane if a sparkie finds out and the dobber reports it.

Example: Queensland Fridgy's cannot interconnect a split a/c condenser to evaporator. Period. Should that cable experience a failure by say..a Cane knife...we can re-run that cable.
New South Wales Fridgy's can do a test and tag with restricted electrical....QLD guy's can't without another course and amendment to ticket.:(

Changing a 38 watt Fluro tube in a plantroom is another no go area FFS! ...as that tube is not directly related to refrigeration controls and power circuits. :off topic:

frank
11-10-2014, 06:33 PM
Changing a 38 watt Fluro tube in a plantroom is another no go area FFS! ...

Mike...think of your stress levels mate...get another tinnie out of the cold box and chill :D

Magoo
11-10-2014, 11:46 PM
Frank
cold boxes, they are called eskies. Then there are tinnies and stubbies and slabs of either.

mikeref
13-10-2014, 09:59 AM
Cheers Magoo. :D There are some good 'ol spirits as well.

Frank. My post #9 unfortunately turned into a rant. I tend to become a little overheated when the "Restricted Licence of Refrigeration Mechanics in OZ" shows up on my radar.
Had to call in a sparkie today to install a time delay relay...because it was a NEW ​installation. Sooo embarrassing.:mad:

Magoo
14-10-2014, 03:26 AM
Hi Mike.
yep, I have been stung a few time with bundy variants. All good stuff though. Inner Circle should kept clear of.

gravy258
14-10-2014, 08:41 AM
the OP wouldn't even need a restricted electrical licence.
To be a transport fridgie here you need a letter from your Australian employer stating that your a transport fridgie for them, and you'll get a transitional transport refrigeration licence from the ARC for twelve months. Nominal fee.
Spring is when they start employing, as they start to gear up for the hot summer.

swampy84
14-10-2014, 10:24 PM
They won't need a electrical licence if they don't want to do any electrical work.
We've got a handful of uk blokes at the TK dealer I work at and have recently had to go to tafe
Pay 2k to do a two day course fill out some log books,etc in order to get licence.
Many customers don't use standby, but a lot of customers we have use it all the time, and therefore
We requires licence for it

PaulZ
15-10-2014, 01:29 AM
Hi Kadders
As stated by other posters if you are only going to work on transport refrigeration then a licence would not be required. In SA you would need a Restricted B (disconnect / reconnect) which honestly is worth the paper or plastic it's written on. A Restricted B doesn't allow us to open a control board, how do we fault find at 2 in the morning on a breakdown.
Most good Fridgies be they commercial or industrial would run rings around a domestic A class electrician.
When it comes to Transport Refrigeration it is covered under Cert 3 or 4 Refrigeration and Air Conditioning in VET.
You will find you will have to get Trades Recognition which is a drawn out process. We have guys from the UK and South Africa working for us and it can take up to 12 months to get everything sorted out. I have no idea why they make it so hard, probably to generate more money for the government.

Mike you have hit a nerve, the rules are very similar to Qld, I have had similar experiences where I have had to get an A Class electrician in to do something but I had to do the drawing and stand over his shoulder and supervise him to make sure he wired up correctly.

The whole electrical licence thing in Australia is a sore point with most Fridgies I know and probably always will be, my rant is now finished I will get off my soapbox.

Regards
Paul

frank
17-10-2014, 09:23 PM
Cheers Magoo. :D There are some good 'ol spirits as well.

Frank. My post #9 unfortunately turned into a rant. I tend to become a little overheated when the "Restricted Licence of Refrigeration Mechanics in OZ" shows up on my radar.
Had to call in a sparkie today to install a time delay relay...because it was a NEW ​installation. Sooo embarrassing.:mad:
Hi Mike...hope the blood pressure is under control :)

If you were to do the relay change yourself without calling in the sparkie, who would know? How is it policed? Seems so different than over here. Most sparkies over here don't know what a relay is never mind how to wire one...or what it does lol :(

gravy258
18-10-2014, 04:39 AM
as long as he did it to the 'code' nobody would know.
If the OP need a licence i'm sure his prospective employer would pay for it.
further more as transport fridgies are on good money compared to the UK I doubt a 500 pound course would be a deal breaker.
here is the course for Melbourne,
http://www.shortcourses.rmit.edu.au/course_page.php?course=S130090&cbs=5ca75b837fb6fbadeb5fdd0531c35af3

If the OP ever returns.. this is a very small trade and everyone knows everyone like distant cousins.
So if he wants a job, name the state and we'll help him out.

mikeref
19-10-2014, 12:12 AM
Hi Mike...hope the blood pressure is under control :)

If you were to do the relay change yourself without calling in the sparkie, who would know? How is it policed? Seems so different than over here. Most sparkies over here don't know what a relay is never mind how to wire one...or what it does lol :(

Electrical fault finding and repairs isn't the issue. Direct refrig/ A/C work only. Adding, modifying or NEW electrical is the drama. Apart from that, repairing a burnt connection on say...a Glass washer in a pub attracts attention. Word get's around usually by the customers letting it slip in a conversation.
could't get hold of our sparky Friday afternoon and since Mike was already here doing coldroom maintenance....well at least he could have a look at it. OH REALLY:eek: