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question mark
23-04-2013, 12:26 PM
hi guys,
i was just wondering.that for normal air conditioners in Australia i normally look at the suction pressure R22 to be 60 psi or 1 to 4 degrees pressure temp. and high side 250 psi , and takes the temp of the day into account. i am pretty sure this the right way to check pressures provided indoor fan and condenser fan is running filters are clean. amps are according to specifications. correct me on this one if wrong. on the other side these new inverter system where compressor can actually fluctuate the speed.i mean can work harder and softer in order to achieve the set point. how does it effects the pressure . will the pressure be different from a normal old style units? haven't had a chance to hook gauges on to the running operating unit.
thanks

Rob White
23-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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It's not just the compressor.

To achieve the cooling effect (or heating) the evap runs
at a set loading, the evap fan runs at a set speed.

If the loading in the room changes, the loading over the evap changes and
the evap fan winds up to increase air flow (the metering device may open as well).

As the evap does more duty (or less) it will effect the loading's on the comp so the comp
ramps up or down to cater for the new load. As the compressor ramps up or down
this now puts extra or less load on the condenser so the cond fan speeds up or slows
down accordingly.

Rob

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The Viking
23-04-2013, 12:46 PM
The best values to check for when you got your gauges connected is the subcooling or superheat. (search this forum for more information about what this is and how to measure it).

Without gauges on a single split system the temperature difference of the air across the indoor coil is quite reliable as long as you got a baseline to compare with (normal delta T at low/medium/high fanspeed)

However, you are right, an inverter will affect all those measurements. The only surefire way of doing it on an inverter driven system is to put it in to TEST mode, check that the compressor is fully ramped up (most decent clamp AMP meters will give frequency as well) and then take your pressure/temp readings.

:cool:

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question mark
24-04-2013, 08:58 AM
hi viking and rob
do you mean when you put unit onto test mode using a button on the thermostat, unit will assume it self being under full load and will give the best reading as like other normal old style air-conditioners ??
thanks

Rob White
24-04-2013, 06:02 PM
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Yes.

Test mode will manually set the compressor speed.

Rob

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question mark
25-04-2013, 05:42 AM
thanks buddy

The Viking
25-04-2013, 09:44 AM
Yes...

There is just one thing to be aware of, some manufacturers have designed their units to stay within certain temp/pressure crirerias even when the system is in test mode, hence the check to confirm the compressor is fully ramped up.

:cool:

mikeref
25-04-2013, 11:29 PM
120 PSI thereabouts on suction line when it's ramped up. Gas side is the least of your dramas, wait till the damned thing is exposed to electrical surges, communications problems, wild life....

install monkey
25-04-2013, 11:55 PM
test mode overrides the thermostat control only for 20 mins on a daikin or 2 hrs on a mitsi, compressor speed will still vary dependant on room temp,and safe operating limits(discharge pressure control, pipe temps

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Yes.

Test mode will manually set the compressor speed.

Rob

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