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damonhuang
19-09-2012, 04:51 AM
HI guys,
Currently I met a tough question. I want to use a 4L aluminum cylinder to fill 200L xenon gas. But I want to know how to calculate the inside cylinder pressure of the xenon gas at 273K and 288K.
xenon gas is a high liquefied gas, and its compressibility factor varies significantly when pressure and temperature changes.

Please help me figure out this, thanks in advance.

Brian_UK
19-09-2012, 10:24 PM
Are you trying to get 200l into a 4l container???
Is it going to be gas, liquid or solid?

Anything here to help?
http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?LanguageID=11&CountryID=19&Formula=&GasID=71&UNNumber=&EquivGasID=71&VolLiquideBox=.2&MasseLiquideBox=&VolGasBox=.2&MasseGasBox=&btnGasToLiquid=Calculate&RD20=29&RD9=8&RD6=64&RD4=2&RD3=22&RD8=27&RD2=20&RD18=41&RD7=18&RD13=71&RD16=35&RD12=31&RD19=34&RD24=62&RD25=77&RD26=78&RD28=81&RD29=82

(http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?LanguageID=11&CountryID=19&Formula=&GasID=71&UNNumber=&EquivGasID=71&VolLiquideBox=.2&MasseLiquideBox=&VolGasBox=.2&MasseGasBox=&btnGasToLiquid=Calculate&RD20=29&RD9=8&RD6=64&RD4=2&RD3=22&RD8=27&RD2=20&RD18=41&RD7=18&RD13=71&RD16=35&RD12=31&RD19=34&RD24=62&RD25=77&RD26=78&RD28=81&RD29=82)http://www.pd.infn.it/~conti/LXe.html

http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C7440633&Mask=4

damonhuang
20-09-2012, 02:50 AM
Thank you for your kind help. I want to fill 200 litre xenon gas into 4 litre cylinder.
The xenon gas is gonna be gas and liquid in the cylinder. The xenon gas is a high pressure liquefied gas, which differs from the permanent gas as the latter one is stable in the cylinder. For instance, helium gas, I will get 150 bar if I fill 6 cubic meter into 40 litre cylinder according to the Ideal Gas Law. But it seems to be difficult for me to calculate the pressure once it's a high pressure liquefied gas.


Are you trying to get 200l into a 4l container???
Is it going to be gas, liquid or solid?

Anything here to help?
http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?LanguageID=11&CountryID=19&Formula=&GasID=71&UNNumber=&EquivGasID=71&VolLiquideBox=.2&MasseLiquideBox=&VolGasBox=.2&MasseGasBox=&btnGasToLiquid=Calculate&RD20=29&RD9=8&RD6=64&RD4=2&RD3=22&RD8=27&RD2=20&RD18=41&RD7=18&RD13=71&RD16=35&RD12=31&RD19=34&RD24=62&RD25=77&RD26=78&RD28=81&RD29=82

(http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?LanguageID=11&CountryID=19&Formula=&GasID=71&UNNumber=&EquivGasID=71&VolLiquideBox=.2&MasseLiquideBox=&VolGasBox=.2&MasseGasBox=&btnGasToLiquid=Calculate&RD20=29&RD9=8&RD6=64&RD4=2&RD3=22&RD8=27&RD2=20&RD18=41&RD7=18&RD13=71&RD16=35&RD12=31&RD19=34&RD24=62&RD25=77&RD26=78&RD28=81&RD29=82)http://www.pd.infn.it/~conti/LXe.html

http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C7440633&Mask=4

xxargs
21-09-2012, 12:58 AM
Xenon

critical temperature 16.584 degree C (above this you not have any liquid part of Xenon inside cylinder on any pressure)
critical pressure 5.84 MPa
critical density 1.099 kg/liter


-30 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 2.03 MPa, vapor density 174.85 gram/liter , liquid density 2323.8 gram/liter

-20 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 2.62 MPa, vapor density 231.3 gram/liter , liquid density 2201 gram/liter

-10 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 3.31 MPa, vapor density 306.9 gram/liter , liquid density 2070 gram/liter

0 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 4.14 MPa, vapor density 414.7 gram/liter , liquid density 1910.1 gram/liter

10 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 5.11 MPa, vapor density 597.0 gram/liter , liquid density 1676.7 gram/liter

16.584 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 5.84 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density 1099 gram/liter

20 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 6.25 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

30 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 7.45 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

40 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 8.66 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

50 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 9.87 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

60 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 11.09 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

70 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 12.3 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

80 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 13.54 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

90 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 14.76 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated

100 degree C at total density at 1.099 kg/liter, pressure 15.98 MPa, vapor density 1099 gram/liter , liquid density: overheated


if you mistakingly fill cylinder on top with liquid xenon at +10 degree (density 1677 gram/liter), seal it, and later time, heating up cylinder to 60 degree C (stored inside VAN in hot sun for example) - you have pressure inside cylinder about 17.6 MPa (175 bar above atmospheric pressure)


Data take from Nist Refprop

damonhuang
21-09-2012, 04:45 AM
Thanks you, xxargs.