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kefah
17-05-2012, 09:06 PM
hi every one
my question is
if i want to press air conditioner 2 ton split unit type type with air to detect leaks
which valve i should choose discharge or suction valve
i know i must use discharge but some people say that i should use suction valve
why i dont know
there prove is some split unit came with valve on suction line only

martinw58
17-05-2012, 09:12 PM
if the system has two conection for gauges then use them both to make sure you get pressure all round the system

kefah
17-05-2012, 09:16 PM
as you know if i want to press the system i should lock up one of them
so as example if i pressed system from discharge valve
then suction valve should be closed
can you explain more

install monkey
17-05-2012, 09:29 PM
warning!-do not pressure test with air!- use oxygen free nitrogen, and pressure test on both gauge points if possible- if theres only 1 on the low side-use it,
also do not shut any valves!

hi every one
my question is
if i want to press air conditioner 2 ton split unit type type with air to detect leaks
which valve i should choose discharge or suction valve
i know i must use discharge but some people say that i should use suction valve
why i dont know
there prove is some split unit came with valve on suction line only

kefah
17-05-2012, 09:36 PM
oh my god
in iraq we pressure a c unit with air to detect leaks
i mean shutting valves
if i want to pressure test on outdoor unit i shut one of the valves and pressure the other

install monkey
17-05-2012, 09:46 PM
www.ior.org.uk page 1 of 2 December 2007
SERVICE ENGINEERS’ SECTION GOOD PRACTICE GUIDE 24
Pressurising installed systems
with nitrogen to find leaks
This Good Practice guide is intended to cover
the identification of leaks using Nitrogen for
refrigeration systems which are already in
operation and are known to have undergone a
strength pressure test. This leak tightness
testing procedure will sometimes be necessary
to comply with the standard leakage checking
requirements of the F-Gas regulations.
The majority of leaks can be found by either
visual examination or use of either an electronic
leak detector or a proprietary bubble solution.
Where the leak cannot be identified or the gas
charge has been lost, then it will be necessary
to find the leak by pressurising the system with
Nitrogen.
To carry out this procedure safely it is
important to use the correct equipment, carry
out a risk assessment and then follow the test
procedure.
The test pressure
The maximum test pressure to be used should
be the maximum allowable pressure, which
should be stated on the equipment label. On
smaller systems the suction and discharge
pressures will be the same, however on larger
equipment the maximum allowable suction
pressure will be lower and the system will need
to be tested in several sections.
If the system information is not available a
general guide to pressures which could be
encountered are:
Refrigerant Suction
pressure
Discharge pressure
R134a 7.1bar 13.7bar
R407C 13.2bar 23.6bar
R404A 14.1bar 24.8bar
R410A 18.8bar 33bar
These have been established assuming a
maximum condensing temperature of 55°C and
a maximum ambient temperature of 32°C (as
specified in EN378 – Refrigerating systems and
heat pumps – Safety and environmental
requirements).
Using the correct equipment
The nitrogen must be oxygen free (OFN) or
High Purity. Oxygen must
never be used as it
can explode when mixed with oil, causing
serious damage to equipment and injury or
death to those in the vicinity.
It is essential to use a suitable regulator with
the nitrogen cylinder. The regulator has an
output limiting device to prevent over
pressurising of systems. The rating of this must
be higher than the test pressure to be used but
not excessively so.
Maximum likely pressures:
Refrigerant Maximum
Pressure
Suitable
regulator
R134a 13.7bar maximum
output of 26bar
R407C 23.6bar maximum
output of 33bar
R404A 24.8bar maximum
output of 33bar
R410A 33bar maximum
output of 40bar
There are now specific Nitrogen Pressure test
kits on the market which use braded steel
hoses. These are safer to use than a standard
manifold and should be considered.
Warning - use of Manifolds with sight glasses
This guide assumes the use of Refrigerant Manifold
and Gauges. It is essential that the manifold
does
not
have a sight glass. These sight glasses have been
known to fail and risk causing serious injury to the
engineer carrying out the test. The manifold, gauges
and service lines must be in good condition.
Manifolds with sight glasses are only suitable for
refrigerant recovery.
www.ior.org.uk page 2 of 2 December 2007
It is essential that appropriate personal protection
equipment (PPE) is used when carrying out this
test and this should include: safety goggles, gloves
and a hard hat as well as normal work wear,
including safety footwear.
The Risk Assessment
Before any work can take place it is mandatory to
carry out a risk assessment. For guidance on
carrying out risk assessments and sample generic
versions for Nitrogen Pressure Leak Testing see
the British Refrigeration Association Guidance.
This assessment can then be put into practice
taking into account the particular site conditions.
It is essential that this takes into account the
safety of personnel carrying out the test as well as
other personnel on site not involved in the
operation.
Handling of nitrogen cylinders
When the cylinder is not being used ensure the
valve is closed. Never transport or store the
cylinder with the regulator fitted.
Dangers of Use of Nitrogen
You will be pressure testing at high pressures
with nitrogen. The pressures are high enough to
cause serious injury or death. Nitrogen is an
asphyxiant – it will suffocate you in high
concentrations. The following guidelines show
how to minimise risk during pressure testing.
Pressure testing procedure
If there is any residual refrigerant left in the
system this must be recovered prior to following
this procedure.
1.
Ensure the nitrogen cylinder is either secured
or located in a position so that it cannot fall over.
2. Ensure the regulator valve is wound
fully out (counter clockwise / anti clockwise).
3. Fit the regulator to the cylinder.
4. Fit gauges to the system and ensure there are
no isolated sections within the part of the system
to be pressure tested.
5. Fit the common manifold hose to the nitrogen
cylinder.
6. Open the system valves and open the high side
manifold valve (to avoid damaging the low side
manifold gauge do not pressurise the low side of
the manifold with the test pressure).
7. Open the nitrogen cylinder valve.
8. Slowly wind the nitrogen regulator in
(clockwise) to pressurise the system:

Pressurise the system in stages of no more than
3 bar (45 psi) at a time;

Ensure you only pressurise the relevant sections
of the system to their maximum allowable
pressure.

Listen for audible pressure loss at every
pressure increment increase;
• Watch the gauge for pressure loss.
• If a leak is identified, the nitrogen should be
vented, the leak repaired and the leak test
procedure repeated.
9. When the maximum system allowable pressure
has been reached, close the nitrogen cylinder
valve and the high pressure manifold valve.
10. Note the pressure shown on the high
pressure gauge.
11. Wind the nitrogen regulator valve fully out
(counter clockwise / anti clockwise).
12. Carefully remove the common hose from the
regulator, slowly venting the nitrogen pressure.
13. Maintain the system at the maximum allowable
pressure for the duration of the test.
14. Test each joint with leak detection spray or
soapy water to identify the leak point. If leaks are
found, they
must not be repaired with the
system pressurised.
15. Slowly vent the remaining nitrogen.
16. Repair any leaks found and then repeat the
test procedure using OFN.
17. When it is established that the system is safe
and leak tight the OFN can be evacuated and the
system can be recharged with refrigerant.
For more information

HSE GN4 Safety In Pressure Testing ISBN
0717616290

BS EN 378 (2007) - Refrigerating systems and
heat pumps – Safety and environmental

Regulation pursuant to Regulation (EC) No
842/2006 of the European Parliament and of
the Council, on standard leakage checking
requirements for stationary refrigeration, air
conditioning and heat pump equipment
containing certain fluorinated greenhouse
gases

British Refrigeration Association’s Risk and
Task Assessments.

Material Safety Data Sheets for nitrogen.
The information contained in this Guide should be seen as a guide to interpretation of relevant industry standards, legislation and statutory information
which should be consulted by the relevant competent person responsible for servicing refrigeration equipment. The Service Engineers’ Section and the
Institute of Refrigeration accept no liability for any errors or omissions.
Service Engineers’ Section of the Institute of Refrigeration, Kelvin House, 76 Mill Lane, Carshalton SM5 2JR

kefah
17-05-2012, 10:05 PM
thank you pal