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jonjon
24-09-2011, 05:36 PM
just wondered if anyone was in a union , things are getting a bit awkward at work with management trying to change t&c's

chillerman2006
24-09-2011, 05:42 PM
Hmmm

maybe I shouldn't but I am a bit of a fooker for taking on management

what they up to mate ??

Gis the full picture & will see if I know or know someone (employment law specialist @ home office) who can make some suggestions

As for unions, cant really do much but give advise unless they have majority of employees at your work

R's chillerman

jonjon
24-09-2011, 05:55 PM
basically trying to change working hours and they want 10 hours a week free labour

al
24-09-2011, 05:56 PM
I'm not a believer in unions, don't forget they have a vested interest and it may not tally with yours, they
are a business too!!

al

chillerman2006
24-09-2011, 07:53 PM
basically trying to change working hours and they want 10 hours a week free labour

Hi Jon

If and thats a big IF....you all stick together then they have no chance, unless they are prepared to sack everyone & re-employ new.....which is unlikely

You need someone in the service team to become spokesman for all

Who can sit down and amicably put the workers side across

One thing a lot of companies are playing on is hyping up the struggles of the recession

The recession does not really hit the service industry as it does others

As the equipment still has to be serviced & even more so now with the introduction of F-Gas laws - you have your guarenteed service for compulsary leak checks, which your company should be promoting to improve business and to keep customers within the law

Even the install side has not been hit that hard this time round as all the cowboy installers have gone due again to F-gas...a friend with a service company is over-run with installs since july, which he has never promoted for !

So on the whole they appear to be just trying it on mate

All stick to your guns, as one & let the spokeman address how you can not afford the cut in money, how you will all assist in promoting F-Gas Regs & how you expect due to F-Gas work to increase not decrease

R's chillerman

install monkey
24-09-2011, 09:20 PM
they cannot ammend your contract of employment without u agreeing and signing-tell em to shove it!!

chillerman2006
24-09-2011, 09:28 PM
they cannot ammend your contract of employment without u agreeing and signing-tell em to shove it!!

Unfortunately they can mate

All they have to do is change the way you work or equipment you work on

& then after a period of time they can declare that they have been monitering

the changes within the company & they are now legally bound to ammend contracts to take into account

the norm

when you accept changes & they then become the norm, contracts have to take into account

the work you now carry out

This is a rough guide of how I understand the contract changing loophole works

R's chillerman

install monkey
24-09-2011, 09:55 PM
what if u visit the bosses houses and take a hammer round-if they cant walk they cant adjust ur conditions-for 6wks at least!

Unfortunately they can mate

All they have to do is change the way you work or equipment you work on

& then after a period of time they can declare that they have been monitering

the changes within the company & they are now legally bound to ammend contracts to take into account

the norm

when you accept changes & they then become the norm, contracts have to take into account

the work you now carry out

This is a rough guide of how I understand the contract changing loophole works

R's chillerman

chillerman2006
24-09-2011, 10:55 PM
what if u visit the bosses houses and take a hammer round-if they cant walk they cant adjust ur conditions-for 6wks at least!

Hmmm ! I best not condone that on open forum

Especially with so many knowing who I am

R's chillerman

cool runings
25-09-2011, 08:07 PM
they cannot ammend your contract of employment without u agreeing and signing-tell em to shove it!!

They can and do all the time.

All they have to do is tell you in advance what they are going to do.
If you disagree then you make yourself unemployed.

If they want to do it, they will do it.

Either take it on the chin or find another company, if you are serious and enough
of you do it they will give you better T&C's or just employ semi skilled guys.

cool runnings

.

Magoo
25-09-2011, 09:40 PM
Write up your own collective agreement and present to employer, effectively an in house union of employees.