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furryfrog
29-03-2011, 09:46 PM
Can anyone tell me of a college who is carrying out the level 3 course this september
I live in the Bristol area and can't find a college within 100 miles ( or more :( )
Any info would be greatly appreciated

frank
29-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Hi Furryfrog

Normally, the college that you took your level 2 with would be able to assist you going onto level 3.

Have you moved districts?

r.bartlett
29-03-2011, 10:31 PM
Hi Furryfrog

Normally, the college that you took your level 2 with would be able to assist you going onto level 3.

Have you moved districts?

I believe Marc no longer teaches at Bath so they were a little short of senior lecturers..

roger head
30-03-2011, 06:59 AM
I would of said bath that's were I did mine.
Morris Berton was the NVQ guru a few years back not sure who is there now tho.

furryfrog
31-03-2011, 08:58 PM
Bath do not do the level 3 anymore - no one to teach it!

Magoo
01-04-2011, 02:49 AM
Being an international forum of trade related people, what is NVQ3. Just interseted, not being picky.

Tony
01-04-2011, 11:06 AM
I know its nowhere near local but Grimsby do level 3

frank
01-04-2011, 04:17 PM
NVQ Level 3 is the second stage qualification here in the UK, Magoo.National Vocational Qualification is something the Government dreamed up to replace the traditional Apprenticeship, some years ago..........and it's all gone downhill since

Deano240
14-04-2011, 08:21 PM
i would go private http://www.taigatraining.com/ located in bath
they know there stuff!!

Magoo
15-04-2011, 04:27 AM
Hi Frank
thank you for explanation, same situation here in NZ, aprenticeships dumped by Govt replaced with an assessment program. Young guys come out with all there papers in 2 > 3 years. Hopeless situation.

mattym
19-04-2011, 05:58 PM
could somebody tell me what is involved with level 3 as i have just done level 2 at northumberland college and have the chance to do level 3 but i want to know what is involved before signing the dotted line

cool runings
21-04-2011, 12:07 AM
could somebody tell me what is involved with level 3 as i have just done level 2 at northumberland college and have the chance to do level 3 but i want to know what is involved before signing the dotted line

Level 3 is the next stage on from level 2, it concentrates on multi compressor, multi evaporator
and complex controls, including 3 phase. These controls also included inverter technology. The maths gets harder
also, you will be expected to work out mass flow rates, volume and power consumption using Ph
charts. You will be expected to be able to callculate the loadings on a multi coldroom, mixed temp
set up and work out heat flows and such like.

all the best

coolrunnings

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mattym
23-04-2011, 11:26 AM
thanks coolrunnings is it worth doing? because level 2 was almost a waste of time due to it was things i already knew but not in technical terms

DTLarca
23-04-2011, 12:56 PM
I was delivering the Level 3 lectures at City of Bath College because Richard Bartlett and Neil Moore (Lvl 2 Lecturer) knew me and the college was short on lecturers. They asked me to deliver a few HND subjects too. Then they asked me to deliver 5 more subjects on HND and HNC level which I agreed to. But then a few days later I learned that my parking place I had had for 18 months was no longer available and that I would have to pay to park across the road. I asked for a little more money per day given that their pay already, if you take into account lecture preparation time, works out to be below the minimum wage, and doing so many more subjects meant less time to consult to earn real money so I took the parking issue very seriously and rejected their offer to stay on. Loved lecturing though - especially the technical debates and number crunching with the HND students.

I met a guy from Scotland who was going to sell me Level 3 diploma material but it turned out, after sitting at Gatwick airport for a day with him, that I would have to pay 60.000.00 for the package with a 4 year license - I would have to have about 600 students in those 4 years to make any money. Further - the material would be more like level 2 by the looks of what I was shown - I have dropped that idea.

So I am now designing 1 day lectures covering physics, fans and pumps, gas laws, PH charts, Psychrometrics etc to either sell to colleges (delivered by me) or sell to folks in the industry who are interested in understanding this stuff which can be delivered over the weekends.

cool runings
24-04-2011, 12:16 PM
thanks coolrunnings is it worth doing? because level 2 was almost a waste of time due to it was things i already knew but not in technical terms

Hi Matty.

Level 3 is a good qual to achieve.

A level 3 is the only official qual that alows you to work unsupervised.

We all know people who are out there without quals and they are excelent
at what they do.

Quals do not make the engineer but they give you the foundation to base everything
you do on.

Your 21 and young, what do you want to do in 10 years time? I'm sure you do not know!!
But if you have the oportunity get all the quals you can, then use the information to your
benifit.

Nobody ever sufered from education, ignorance is a killer and once you have the knowledge
use it or don't but at least you have the choice. If you don't get the quals you will never know.

So for me I'm in favor of the qual and I think it will only make you a better engineer.

Doing the job for doing the jobs sake is just getting by, if you want more you may have
to put more effort in, in the begining.

If you are happy doing what you do, then fair play but I think you should look to long term.

Are you going to be on the tools all your carreer? You don't know, do you?

So if you have the oportunity get the qual and then it is yours forever, with a level 3 you
could walk into a job in most countries where Fridge and AC are used.

All the best

coolrunnings

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Tradewinds
24-04-2011, 12:42 PM
Totally agree with cool runnings. Get your qualifications early on. It can save a lot of guess work out in the field.

mattym
26-04-2011, 06:40 PM
thanks for that i would like to be on the tools as the technology is always changing, going to have a meeting with my college tutor and between us make a decision i am all up for doing it .
thanks for the help Matty

hitmanzak
18-07-2011, 10:27 PM
Hi,
I Have decided to sit the level 3 City and guilds exam with PRTC Burnley and would like to find some mock exam papers, study notes etc to help me with the study.
I have not attended college to carry out the NVQ but sitting the exam only.
Any help and advice would be great I have as not found any information out there.

Magoo
19-07-2011, 01:59 AM
OK , I am old and live on the other side of the world, BUT peices of paper/ Quals do make good trades people. Hands on experience and practical work experience with study and books and exams does though, add to that TIME. It does not happen over night.
If you have to have check papers/test questions, then your level of knowledge is questionable. The answers should fly off the end of your pencil/ or pen.

r.bartlett
19-07-2011, 07:30 AM
OK , I am old and live on the other side of the world, BUT peices of paper/ Quals do make good trades people. Hands on experience and practical work experience with study and books and exams does though, add to that TIME. It does not happen over night.
If you have to have check papers/test questions, then your level of knowledge is questionable. The answers should fly off the end of your pencil/ or pen.Last edited by Magoo; 19-07-2011 at 02:06 AM. Reason: spelling & dictation



I'm guessing you mean do not?