Certification Ce Etl Ul

[abbasi]

we need to get certification of

UL
ETL
CE
for our airconditioners
what is procedure for getting these certifications and what are their contact numbers?

[Argus]

I assume that you are a manufacturer. It all depends on where you are marketing.
The above is a bit of a mixture, but here goes. I can only tell you about Europe.

UL is Underwriters Laboratory. It?s an independent American test organisation. Not essential nor mandatory in Europe, but a lot of units that are marketed worldwide bear their logo.
http://www.ul.com/
However, UL may do testing to CE conformity, (see below)

ETL is the UK Energy Technology List. (if this is what you mean). It allows listed products that meet minimum energy efficiency criteria to qualify for 100% first Year Enhanced Capital Allowances. It?s a tax break in the UK only. Other European Countries may have similar schemes.
http://www.eca.gov.uk/etl/homepage.asp

The ETL database is here:
http://www.eca.gov.uk/etl/search.asp?pagecode=0001000200010001

A searchable database of Eligibility Criteria is here ? look for the various heat pumps.
http://www.eca.gov.uk/etl/criteria_claims.asp?contentType=criteria
Again, not essential, but a very good marketing tool.

To get yourself on the ETL, you will DEFINITELY need membership of the Eurovent certification scheme.

Details Here:
http://www.eurovent-certification.com/index.php.en
This scheme is similar to the ARI scheme.


Finally, the important one. It is Illegal to market any AC product anywhere in the EU WITHOUT a CE mark. It is also illegal to CE mark your product fraudulently.
For A/C equipment, CE marking is needed for The Low Voltage Directive (LVD), and the Electromagnetic Compatibility Directive (EMC),

Try this site:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/index_en.htm

Possibly the Pressure equipment Directive (PED), though it depends on the size and type of the equipment..
See it here:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/pressure_equipment/ped/index_en.html

Plus the energy labelling Directive for equipment below 12kW cooling.
http://europa.eu.int/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l32004.htm

Additionally the WEEE Directive takes effect next year and new regulations on fluorinated gases probably in 2006.

CE marking involves testing in approved facilities and the issuing of an official Declaration of Conformity (NOT a Certificate of Conformity) in the EU.
There is plenty out there to read, but my advice to you is to employ a reputable Certified or Notified body to handle it for you.

The above regulations are fairly basic stuff. The advantage it is that you do it once only in any EU country ? you are then free to market in any of the 25 EU countries, plus the 3 EFTA states that have reciprocal agreements with the EU.

I can?t speak for the rest of the world.

Hope this helps. It might seem a lot to do, but all manufacturers and importers into the EU have to do it.

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[botrous]

Thanks for the links Argus , Abbasi asked for it , but it's useful for me to , so thanks

[abbasi]

Argus mate we are leading manufacturers of HVAC in Pakistan and for export purposes we needed it as was demand from client. We exported alot but ist time these certifications were required for export to fRANCE.

I am really thankful for your post as it was more than help for me:)


Regards

Ali Abbasi

Head of Department of design
SABRO PAKISTAN
www.sabro.com.pk

[Argus]

That?s no problem.

I don?t know what kit you export. If it is air handlers or large chillers, you may need to add the Machinery Safety Directive (MSD) to that lot, but it is not applied for small split systems because mechanical hazard is covered in the LVD.

As far as exporting to France is concerned, it doesn?t matter the destination in the EU ? once you have the necessary certifications in place you are legal in all 25 countries in the EU. The only advantage with certifying in France or any other country for manufacturers outside the EU is the French language. If you prefer English, do it in the UK, If German is more to your liking, get it done in Germany, though German test houses will produce reports in English. You must provide documentation in the language of the country you are selling into, so you will need translations etc.

But, you MUST do it and do it properly, because the penalties for breach of EU competition in the EU can be quite stiff.

The ETL does not apply in France. It?s UK only as I said. The French have some incentives of their own. If you make heat pumps, the Vivrelec scheme is worth considering.

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[abbasi]

we will ist do it for small splits and then for chillers and AHU
But i dont know why so much certifications y cant world agree on just one body to certify all this?
more and more certifications are just confusing us (maufacturers)

[Argus]

[QUOTE=abbasi] y cant world agree on just one body to certify all this?
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I think that is due to happen immediately after the entire world speaks one language!

Seriously, the certification process in Europe (the EU, that is), is intended specifically to achieve such a single certification process so that if you are legal in one country, your product is legal in all of them.

Imagine having to do all of that certification for every country you have a market in. There are 25 staes in the EU, 3 more in EFTA, and another 3 trying to get in.

The potential for growth in the EU is staggering.

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[botrous]

One certefication for all the countries , what a nice idea . . . maybe the UN is considering that , and i bet they are . . .
But the standarts deffer from country to country , man units deffer , inch , cm , pounds , kgs , first let them have an international (effective) units system , then they can talk about an international certification