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brazer
17-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Can anyone shed light on why a lab analysis would go from 10 mg/kg to 200 mg/kg in the space of a year?
Have asked the lab who did the analysis but they say they wouldn't know?????????

Thanks in advance

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NoNickName
17-01-2011, 04:00 PM
Phosphorous is contained in white metal journals (bearings). Probably there is an ongoing wearing of one or more crank journals.

brazer
17-01-2011, 09:31 PM
NoNickName
Oil sample is from an Hitachi screw so dont think it has journal type bearings.
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NoNickName
18-01-2011, 07:40 AM
Ok, but don't take that as a mistake of the lab. It may well be an ongoing wear and tear.

desA
18-01-2011, 09:29 AM
Copper-Phos (Harris 0) brazing rods?

Anyone had to braze into the system during the year?

NoNickName
18-01-2011, 11:40 AM
Yes, phosphorus is also contained in welding sticks.

RANGER1
18-01-2011, 08:39 PM
brazer,
Take another oil sample to prove its consistant.

The name brazer with this problem you describe is a story in itself!

Quality
18-01-2011, 08:56 PM
Yes, phosphorus is also contained in welding sticks.


They are brazing rods ;)

Magoo
18-01-2011, 11:15 PM
Screw compressors do have white metal mains / bearing.
If they are starting wear, there is a major problem developing, as well as more oil sample testing get a vibration analysis done as well.

Gingerair
19-01-2011, 12:02 AM
I think some Hitachi screws may use roller instead of plain bearings.
Also think phosphorus can be used in some metal treatments,(bearings).
Hitachi may be able to confirm the source of phosphorus.
As Ranger & Magoo said, re-test to confirm result..
Ginge :)

Magoo
19-01-2011, 01:13 AM
I am not familiar with Hitachi screws, but generally a screw will have white metal mains and double ball based thrusts to allow for temp changes, oil pumps etc.. also could have phos/ bronze bearings.
What ever the change in oil sample results is alarming, labs are known to screw up as well, so repeat oil sample checks needed.