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lana
13-12-2010, 04:26 AM
Dear all,

I attached a picture which schematically shows a split unit which can be a heat pump. I came across this design and I can not get the reason for two cap tubes.
As you can see, in cooling mode only one cap tube is in operation but in heating mode refrigerant goes through two cap tubes!!!
Would you please have a look and give me your opinion.

Thanks
LANA

Aik
13-12-2010, 07:17 AM
May be it depends on different evaporating temperatures when cooling and when heating. When cooling evaporating temperature (in inside unit) higher than heating (in outside unit).
When heating two cap tubes work in series and pressure drop would be bigger...

NoNickName
13-12-2010, 07:36 AM
Exactly. The evap temp is lower therefore longer equivalent cap is necessary.

lana
13-12-2010, 08:32 AM
Thanks for the reply.

I was wondering why all heat pumps are not designed like this?
Cheers

NoNickName
13-12-2010, 10:00 AM
Probably because nobody uses capillaries anymore?

lana
13-12-2010, 01:25 PM
Almost all split air conditioners use cap tubes.

desA
13-12-2010, 01:27 PM
Probably because nobody uses capillaries anymore?

LOL... You sure about that? :D

NoNickName
13-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Well, no, I'm talking about high end split systems, VRVs and euro-japanese appliances.
I'm not much into chinese parafernalias.

lana
14-12-2010, 05:14 AM
Guys, I am not convinced with this reasoning.
If in the heating mode, evaporating must be lower and so two cap tubes are used; why not always?

Any ideas?

Below 0
14-12-2010, 08:35 AM
differant size coils?

mad fridgie
14-12-2010, 09:29 AM
The actual reason is to keep the discharge pressure elevated, so that the air off is hot, to reduce wind chill factor.
More complex systems, use EEV, indoor fan speed control, to achieve similar effects.

NoNickName
14-12-2010, 10:21 AM
If in the heating mode, evaporating must be lower and so two cap tubes are used; why not always?


Because in cooling mode, evaporating must be higher and so one cap is used.

install monkey
14-12-2010, 08:15 PM
all wrong-in cooling mode 1 expansion device is on use then heating mode the other expansion device is used-the tip is to recognise the check valves!!

mad fridgie
14-12-2010, 08:25 PM
all wrong-in cooling mode 1 expansion device is on use then heating mode the other expansion device is used-the tip is to recognise the check valves!!
Look at drawing again, the caps are in series, it is not an "either/or/both" expansion set up which is also a common method (then parralell)

install monkey
14-12-2010, 09:30 PM
good point-no reversing valve neither!

moideen
15-12-2010, 04:26 AM
what wiil be the evaporating temperature in heating mode?
moideen

lana
18-12-2010, 03:00 AM
Thanks everybody for the replies.

Cheers