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multisync
10-02-2010, 12:13 PM
We have a 3 pipe VRV (old R22) which seems to emit a loud bang every now and again.
It appears the pipes enter the building and drop 500mm to the tray then along. The maintenance man has seen these pipes jump off the tray and back with the loud bang mentioned.
We assume it's oil recovery or defrost type event. None of the pipework is clamped anywhere and we wonder if this is common and can we cable tie the pipes to the tray (around the armaflex) to stop thios happening
What is the recommended guide line to stop this
VRVIII
10-02-2010, 05:21 PM
We have a 3 pipe VRV (old R22) which seems to emit a loud bang every now and again.
It appears the pipes enter the building and drop 500mm to the tray then along. The maintenance man has seen these pipes jump off the tray and back with the loud bang mentioned.
We assume it's oil recovery or defrost type event. None of the pipework is clamped anywhere and we wonder if this is common and can we cable tie the pipes to the tray (around the armaflex) to stop thios happening
What is the recommended guide line to stop this
Bigger cable ties :D
multisync
10-02-2010, 07:24 PM
Bigger cable ties :D
Actually there are no cable ties and haven't been for years.However we will return and tie the pipes down. Strange there are 6 systems on site and only this one has ever caused a noise problem..
Thanks for the advice:D
DEVIL
10-02-2010, 07:50 PM
Did it do this before ?
If the amount of refrigerant is overcharged (or other malfunction) you might get liquid back to compressor and that would do enought vibration and make the pipe do this behavior
VRVIII
10-02-2010, 08:27 PM
Actually there are no cable ties and haven't been for years.However we will return and tie the pipes down. Strange there are 6 systems on site and only this one has ever caused a noise problem..
Thanks for the advice:D
I was joking Multi, but don’t suppose the cable ties would do any harm :D
I’ve never heard of VRV pipe work jumping before, do you know if it’s all 3 pipes or one in particular? I was surprised to find that ever 20m of pipe work can have up to 17mm of thermal expansion/contraction.
It could also be due to a faulty or sticking valve or something alone those lines.
multisync
10-02-2010, 08:41 PM
I was joking Multi, but don’t suppose the cable ties would do any harm :D
I’ve never heard of VRV pipe work jumping before, do you know if it’s all 3 pipes or one in particular? I was surprised to find that ever 20m of pipe work can have up to 17mm of thermal expansion/contraction.
It could also be due to a faulty or sticking valve or something alone those lines.
We haven't seen it but one of the maintenance guy's has. :)
I will ask them again for more details which may id the pipe or pipes..There are no complaints of poor performance
multisync
10-02-2010, 08:42 PM
Did it do this before ?
If the amount of refrigerant is overcharged (or other malfunction) you might get liquid back to compressor and that would do enought vibration and make the pipe do this behavior
For many years we were told today:cool:
DEVIL
11-02-2010, 09:04 AM
pipe dilatation is not the case, we only add dilatation compensator if we exceed 70 m if it's straight and depending on the pipe diameter.
But dilatation doesn't make visible movements , or if it's visible it just moves slow not jumping.
The only cause i see is vibrations from the outdoor unit, and that is mainly made by liquid pumping and as shocks like elbows there is the place they make them-selfs more visible
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