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frederick437
27-11-2009, 01:45 PM
We are have a calorex heat pump AWZ7034BHC with 2 copeland ZR12ME-TWD-551 Compressors Both compressors are burned and need replacement. The compressors are not available anymore here in the UAE. Can I replace these compressors with one double the size hermetic compressor.please advise

desA
27-11-2009, 03:26 PM
Assuming that this is a single lift circuit (not cascade), replacing 2 parallel compressors, with a single compressor, specified to identical operating conditions should be possible - if everything else is able to support it.

You will definitely need to *carefully* check the equivalent ratings between both compressor units.

Perhaps you could chat to your Copeland supplier & ask for their recommendations on how to proceed.

yinmorrison
27-11-2009, 07:17 PM
I assume you are the ' End User' and you should consult with your local A/C Company on replacing with either Maneurop, Carlyle-Danfoss or Toshiba Hermetic Scroll compressors , there are other equivelant types of course. The system is 2 stage for a reason and I would not consider changing to a single stage if just for economic reasons on running costs alone.You would have a lot of work to do with pipe alterations , electrics etc so just get straight equivelants. Make sure you find out the cause of failure first though!!!

moideen
27-11-2009, 08:20 PM
We are have a calorex heat pump AWZ7034BHC with 2 copeland ZR12ME-TWD-551 Compressors Both compressors are burned and need replacement. The compressors are not available anymore here in the UAE. Can I replace these compressors with one double the size hermetic compressor.please advise
this compressor is scroll.available sutable compressor in dubai.go to BNT refrigeration or abu zayed refrigeration.if there not ZR M series,they will arrange zr k SERIES.
MOIDEEN-DUBAI:off topic:

desA
28-11-2009, 03:25 AM
I assume you are the ' End User' and you should consult with your local A/C Company on replacing with either Maneurop, Carlyle-Danfoss or Toshiba Hermetic Scroll compressors , there are other equivelant types of course. The system is 2 stage for a reason and I would not consider changing to a single stage if just for economic reasons on running costs alone.You would have a lot of work to do with pipe alterations , electrics etc so just get straight equivelants. Make sure you find out the cause of failure first though!!!

I suspect they're a 2 parallel compressor set, to match the heat-load - not 2-stage in series, or cascade.

Gary
28-11-2009, 03:38 AM
Anyone who needs to ask should not be trying to re-design a 2 compressor system into a 1 compressor system.

frederick437
28-11-2009, 05:14 AM
Moideen,
The problem is that the k series do not have a place for an oil equalizing line

frederick437
28-11-2009, 05:17 AM
Gary,
What would you do then. I need suitable compressors which have the options to install an oil equalizing line

frederick437
28-11-2009, 05:19 AM
DesA,
Yes it is a parallel system no staging. The problem is I need compressors which have the option to install an oil equalizing line between the two compressors

frederick437
28-11-2009, 05:23 AM
Yinmorrison,
No it is two compressors running parallel no staging.The problem is that I can not get hold of same capacity compressors with the option to fit an oil equalizing line between the two compressors

Gary
28-11-2009, 05:35 AM
Gary,
What would you do then. I need suitable compressors which have the options to install an oil equalizing line

You ask if two compressors can be replaced with one. The answer is maybe... but that's the wrong question. The right question is, why does this system have two compressors?

I don't know the answer, because I can't see the system from here. I can only "see" your description of it... and you haven't described it.

desA
28-11-2009, 05:56 AM
You ask if two compressors can be replaced with one. The answer is maybe... but that's the wrong question. The right question is, why does this system have two compressors?

I don't know the answer, because I can't see the system from here. I can only "see" your description of it... and you haven't described it.

The reason is often that the scroll compressors at the time the heat-pump was developed, may not have had adequate capacity to each cope with the full load. Bitzer, Copeland & others supply parallel sets of matched-performance compressors. These then effectively 'work as one', when linked in parallel.

Gary
28-11-2009, 06:12 AM
The reason is often that the scroll compressors at the time the heat-pump was developed, may not have had adequate capacity to each cope with the full load. Bitzer, Copeland & others supply parallel sets of matched-performance compressors. These then effectively 'work as one', when linked in parallel.

That may very well be the reason (albeit not a good reason), but I would not make that assumption.