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curiousengineer
26-07-2009, 10:04 PM
Hey everyone.

Im asking this question on a new account my friend will be using, im already a member and quite frequent on the site, due to the nature of the question i can't let the boss see who i am.

So scandalous!!!!

My question is, am i right to want more money despite the recession.

Summary below

I work on A/C, Refrigeration not supermarket, no ammonia work, primarily service with very few recalls on jobs i have attended. Im young 20-25, and i have been in the industry a few years now.

CITB pipework and brazing, CITB electrics and refrig electrics and my F gas ticket (J11). And other manufacturers courses.

Due to be taking an apprentice onboard in the next 6 months, i get paid salary at 40 hrs p/week, much more hours in the summer and less in winter but still 40 hrs.

Pay is roughly 16500 p/yr

Opinions?

Cheers All

djbe
26-07-2009, 10:15 PM
If you are good at your job I would say you deserved more than that?

But if you are doing mainly air con. it is probably not a good time to ask for it.

Problem is even good employers are using the recession to their advantage at the moment, what kind of firm do you work for?

multisync
27-07-2009, 12:08 AM
Hey everyone.

Im asking this question on a new account my friend will be using, im already a member and quite frequent on the site, due to the nature of the question i can't let the boss see who i am.

So scandalous!!!!

My question is, am i right to want more money despite the recession.

Summary below

I work on A/C, Refrigeration not supermarket, no ammonia work, primarily service with very few recalls on jobs i have attended. Im young 20-25, and i have been in the industry a few years now.

CITB pipework and brazing, CITB electrics and refrig electrics and my F gas ticket (J11). And other manufacturers courses.

Due to be taking an apprentice onboard in the next 6 months, i get paid salary at 40 hrs p/week, much more hours in the summer and less in winter but still 40 hrs.

Pay is roughly 16500 p/yr

Opinions?

Cheers All

I bet if your boss read this he's spot you a mile off.:p

That said you should be nearer 20k, or 10-11 ph.

That said it's tough out there...

Magoo
27-07-2009, 12:40 AM
Pay rates come down to productivity, hours charged out versus weekly paid as wages/salary. Do an analysis yourself from your records and do the sums. Generally the cost to a service company to have 1 serviceman on road is 120% of hourlywage rate, that covers overheads and holidays/sick pay and all and sundry. Then you add employers profit margin. So compare charge rates and your wage rate. Alot of the time employer really on makes money on materials.
After all above go to your boss with your calc's and ask for a pay rise.

lowcool
27-07-2009, 06:44 AM
definitely!!!!!

Josip
27-07-2009, 08:59 AM
Hi, curiousengineer :)




Hey everyone.

Im asking this question on a new account my friend will be using, im already a member and quite frequent on the site, due to the nature of the question i can't let the boss see who i am.

So scandalous!!!!.....
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..... Opinions?

Cheers All


Why not come with your original name :confused: ... no need to hide anything, or !?!

... if you are doing a good job ... then for sure you deserve better salary

... it is good to ask other people for advice, opinion/s ....

Maybe is not the best time, due to recession, to ask for a big salary rise, but you know the situation within company and for sure you can ask for reasonable salary rise ;) ....


Best regards, Josip :)

marc5180
27-07-2009, 05:55 PM
I agree 16,500 is pretty low. Depending on your level of competancy you should be looking in the region of 20-25k.
Go and ask for a payrise, what's the worst he can say?

superswill
27-07-2009, 06:06 PM
20-23k i would feel would be a fair wage for you,i agree in if you dont ask you wont get but in these present times be very careful its not a time to put your head above the para-pit,

also maybe look around at other companies to see what they are paying

Colin G
27-07-2009, 06:39 PM
interesting

acnerd
27-07-2009, 08:21 PM
That is quite low especially with a few years experience. Did you do your apprenticeship/training with your current employer? I found that sometimes the boss still sees you as the spotty-faced kid who started with him, and not the engineer you are now. I would ask for a raise!!

frank
27-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Pay rates come down to productivity, hours charged out versus weekly paid as wages/salary. Do an analysis yourself from your records and do the sums. Generally the cost to a service company to have 1 serviceman on road is 120% of hourlywage rate, that covers overheads and holidays/sick pay and all and sundry. Then you add employers profit margin. So compare charge rates and your wage rate. Alot of the time employer really on makes money on materials.
After all above go to your boss with your calc's and ask for a pay rise.
We did a calculation recently which showed that the cost to the company was about 137% of the hourly rate.
In my opinion, with the current economic climate, it's better to hang on to your job and wait for better times before asking for a raise. It's tight out there.!!!!

Clk320_Greg
27-07-2009, 09:57 PM
Have to say if you really belived you were worth more then would you really have used a different account?

I think not.

Magoo
28-07-2009, 07:03 AM
Hi Frank.
I agree, I was quoting local issues with the 120% as an average. With the current economic climate, take the wages and be thankfull. It is a bit of a reallity check for young guys when the facts are laid out to them. They muck around the shop, 2 hour lunch breaks, and want to be paid mega bucks to be at work ,, recovery rates are the key to pay the rent, then try and make a dollar.

lowcool
28-07-2009, 01:43 PM
dont forget if your a reasonable mechanic your making the company money.other wise it would not exist, apart from no integrity etc.crooks working for crooks