New Style Hoses with Teflon seats!

[Grizzly]

Is it just me?
Or does anyone else find the new style hose seals in plastic a real pain in the butt?
In the past I have never had to apply more than hand tight pressure for the hose end to seal.
I have had to occasionally resort to pipe grips since this new innovation!!!
Grizzly

[glenn1340]

You`re not the only one grizzly. They also tend to leak if there`s any vibration as there`s very little give in the teflon seal, great fun if you leave the gauges on and do other stuff then come back to find gas hissing out of the connection.

[Brian_UK]

Yeah, give me good old rubber every time.

[multisync]

Yeah, give me good old rubber every time.

:off topic::p

[FreezerGeezer]

Yes, I prefer the older design too. I find the same problem as Glenn, and often just by twisting themselves 'open' under the weight of a hose hanging off the vertical!

[Quality]

They are ok when new but don`t seem to last to long before they give problems

[chemi-cool]

I hate them, always leak....

I keep one of these to tighten them....

[thebigcheese]

gona show this thread to my local wholseller.. who informs me that im the only person that complains about the hoses

[monkey spanners]

I think you can swap the teflon seals for the rubber ones, I believe they are the same size.

Jon

[multisync]

Are you sure they are not PTFE?

[Grizzly]

Are you sure they are not PTFE?

Patented by Dupont. Teflon is their trade name for PTFE.

So we are all correct:)
MS I think you may have something there?
But removing the seals may be tricky?
Anybody tried?
Anyone know why they are supplied like this?
Grizzly

[desA]

Teflon has a nasty habit of flowing (extruding) with use. It also has a fairly 'hard' response, forcing the user to tighten it more, causing more extrusion.

Rubbers are far more forgiving. Who supplies this kind of hose - I'll avoid them like the plague.

[multisync]

Patented by Dupont. Teflon is their trade name for PTFE.

So we are all correct:)
MS I think you may have something there?
But removing the seals may be tricky?
Anybody tried?
Anyone know why they are supplied like this?
Grizzly

I know but we are not allowed to advertise on the board so should avoid trade names:o

But yes you are totally correct they are poor compared to rubber I've lost many a hour vaccing out a system only to see the see hoses not sealing..

[Quality]

. Who supplies this kind of hose - I'll avoid them like the plague.

I am not slaging their equipment but refco have used them for years

[desA]

^ Wilco, over & out... :)

[monkey spanners]

For getting the old seals out i remove the depressor and then screw in a wood screw and pull the seal out with pliers. I expect it would work with the teflon ones too.

Jon

[Grizzly]

For getting the old seals out i remove the depressor and then screw in a wood screw and pull the seal out with pliers. I expect it would work with the Teflon ones too.

Jon
Hi Jon.
Good to hear from you!
I to have tried to remove the schraeder decompresser from one of these new hoses.
Sadly all that happened was it broke up and I ended with a big piece of swarf left in place.
So as of yet I have yet to succeed!
Has anyone faired better?
Grizzly

[monkey spanners]

I could tell a story of one of those broken depessors going through a brand new scroll comp and making a very nasty noise for about half an hour, but I won't :eek:

Jon :D

[monkey spanners]

The rubber seals do fit as a replcement for the refco teflon seals. Take a bit of getting out though!

Jon

[Magoo]

They really p#ss me off.

[multisync]

Has anyone else been caught out by these hard seals not compressing when they fit their gauges and think "The bloody thing has lost all it's gas.."

[casstrig]

Yea they piss me off just recently pulled a vacuum and wanted to be sure the system had no more moisture so left the gauges connected for four hours and came back to find a loos of vacuum after much testing found that the dam Teflon hose seal leaked.