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dude
23-06-2004, 03:15 PM
Anyone have a graph of R-12 wholesale price in the US that stretches from a decade ago to prediction of half decade from now?

Karl Hofmann
23-06-2004, 03:32 PM
LOL Dude, Gold would be cheap as chips if it were in plentifull supply, you guys should stop beating yourselves up about it. R12 is gone.

neil sailes
23-06-2004, 07:50 PM
Here in the UK we stopped using it about a decade ago..(good old Montreal Protocol).
Neil

dude
25-06-2004, 12:49 AM
LOL Dude, Gold would be cheap as chips if it were in plentifull supply, you guys should stop beating yourselves up about it. R12 is gone.

It's a delicate balance of supply and demand. There's no question that supply is going down and as long as the supply depletion is faster than decrease in demand, price stays high.

But refrigeration equipment have a limited lifetime and as more and more R-12 vehicles and refrigeration systems are decommissioned, demand goes down along with R-12 value.

Karl Hofmann
25-06-2004, 07:49 AM
But demand still outstrips supply. I cant really comment on R12 refrigeration, regarding auto ac there are still plenty of guys in the US running old smokers that still use R12, I see about three a year here in the UK, very few are worth the time and cash to save.

neil sailes
25-06-2004, 07:51 PM
Dude
Where as R12 is supperior to its relevant drop in replacements, the cost of R12 will keep on rising as manufacture of the gas drops and ceases. So may be it might worth trying one of its cheaper long term replacements like R413a.
Neil