nike123
11-02-2009, 11:45 AM
I found this (http://www.irc.wisc.edu/?/file&id=64) handy software for calculation of flash gas ratio.
And this is continuation on discussion about software in this thread (http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=135173).
http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=117&pictureid=704
As you can see the % volume is 100% but the mass is only 53%.
Something is wrong here. It does not really compute.
To me it is still not something unusual because that 100% could be easy 99,99% and software rounded it to 100%.
Volume of gas is many time greater than volume of liquid so it could be that only 0,01% of total volume is liquid with 53% of mass ratio.
Specific volume of R134a gas at 2psi is 1,16070m^3/kg and R134a liquid specific volume at 2psi is 0,00066m^3/kg.
Ratio is 1/1758,636 and by this, it makes perfect sense to me that it could be 99,99 volume of gas and only 0,01 volume of liquid while mass of gas is 53%.
I made some calculations and I wish that someone confirm that this is OK calculation.
If we have 530 gr. of gas and 470 grams of liquid that give us 0,615171m^3 of gas and 0,00040601286 m^3 of liquid.
0,00040601286/0,615171=0,00066 volume ratio of liquid
0,00066*100=0,06% percentage ratio of liquid
100%-0,06%=99,94% percentage ratio of flash gas
How is software came to mass ratio is something I don't know. Is this obtained from P-h Chart?
I can explain why this happens in EES if you wish and it may be an intersting topic but its not what I seek at the moment.
If I am able to folow you, (I dont have faculty education) I will be glad to see why is that the case.
And this is continuation on discussion about software in this thread (http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=135173).
http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=117&pictureid=704
As you can see the % volume is 100% but the mass is only 53%.
Something is wrong here. It does not really compute.
To me it is still not something unusual because that 100% could be easy 99,99% and software rounded it to 100%.
Volume of gas is many time greater than volume of liquid so it could be that only 0,01% of total volume is liquid with 53% of mass ratio.
Specific volume of R134a gas at 2psi is 1,16070m^3/kg and R134a liquid specific volume at 2psi is 0,00066m^3/kg.
Ratio is 1/1758,636 and by this, it makes perfect sense to me that it could be 99,99 volume of gas and only 0,01 volume of liquid while mass of gas is 53%.
I made some calculations and I wish that someone confirm that this is OK calculation.
If we have 530 gr. of gas and 470 grams of liquid that give us 0,615171m^3 of gas and 0,00040601286 m^3 of liquid.
0,00040601286/0,615171=0,00066 volume ratio of liquid
0,00066*100=0,06% percentage ratio of liquid
100%-0,06%=99,94% percentage ratio of flash gas
How is software came to mass ratio is something I don't know. Is this obtained from P-h Chart?
I can explain why this happens in EES if you wish and it may be an intersting topic but its not what I seek at the moment.
If I am able to folow you, (I dont have faculty education) I will be glad to see why is that the case.