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icecube51
26-01-2009, 06:29 PM
Hey guys,

wonder if you would be so kind to give me some help (again)? whe where cold out on a chiller Carrier, model 30HR 502053-12
build in 1974 and runs on R22. it has a volume of 104Ltrs.
they have askt to do a big servive on this engine for the last time,because in 2015 they are going to change it.(law for R22 in europe)
we dont have any booklets or flyers or other info for this kind of machine.it has being dormend for 23years and running for 12 years now. i need al info on engine service,valve's , gaskets and so on. manymany thanks in advance.

Ice

ps; i will post pfoto's asap

multisync
26-01-2009, 07:10 PM
http://www.xpedio.carrier.com/idc/groups/public/documents/techlit/

icecube51
26-01-2009, 10:14 PM
thnx M8,
its a bit difficult to open each file separate but it gives me a good idea and start.

Ice

Gibbo
26-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Due to not having done 15 posts this site won't let me post a URL. so go to Carrier's web site.

eto.carrier.com/lit.asp

Grizzly
26-01-2009, 10:39 PM
Hey Ice!
I am sure when Gibbo reaches 15 posts, he will be able to help us all!
In the meantime try the link below.
If necessary search 30HR.

http://www.commercial.carrier.com/commercial/hvac/technical_literature/1,3063,CLI1_CNT2_DIV12_ETI8920_QRYY,00.html

good luck Grizzly

Argus
27-01-2009, 09:54 AM
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From about the late 1970s, Carrier took over Le Compressor Frigorifique (LCF, now the Carrier factory at Montluel in Lyons).

Some 30HR chillers were made in France from that period, however it's probable that in 1974, your chiller was made in the USA.

The name plate should tell you, plus the wiring will be in Yellow cable if its American. (French-made models were wired in red cable).

The reason for all this is that the two model s will be different.


Control schematic wiring differs.
Part numbers will be different - not always interchangeable.
Water flow rates for US models will be in US gallons (NOT the same volume measure as a British Imperial Gallon)



Good luck if you can locate parts, but after 35 years it may mean that you will need to make your own.

I would strongly urge you not to disturb any gaskets on the evaporator tube sheets unless you have no choice and they are shot - they are VERY difficult to replace. Additionally, because the water enters and leaves the evaporator at the top, it is prone to collecting debris in the bottom of the shell. Assume that there is a layer of filth in the base of the evaporator. If you don't get it all out, you will probably have poor evaporating conditions - 30 HRs were well known to flood back for this reason.

On the plus side, the 06E compressor hasn't changed much and they can be rebuilt on site if you are careful.


Hope this helps.......


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Grizzly
27-01-2009, 02:58 PM
Icecube
A big thank you to Argus for such an informative post.
Because of his useful info I can help further!
Follow the link below for the Service Manual on the carrier 06D - 06E & 06CC Compressors.
Good Luck Grizzly

http://www.mediafire.com/?fnc2rn12xn2

icecube51
27-01-2009, 06:01 PM
Hey Guys,
many-many-many thnx to you all.
it always give me great plesure to work on the old engine's. they are so strong. we are debating on a overhaul to a newer refrig type.all suggestions or recommandations are welcome.
to Gibbo, big Welcome on the forum.hope to hear from you regulairly.

thnx again , Ice