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Chill'D
12-11-2008, 04:59 PM
Hi,

Im looking for a decent swaging kit,
Ive had the block and yoke type, which takes too much effort and sometimes gets stuck,
and I've also got a tube expander, but without heating, it cracks 3/8'',1/4'' pipe,

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andy AC
12-11-2008, 11:39 PM
Put some oil on the screw thread of your yoke assembly.
As for your expander, they ain't much good on the smaller pipes, especially with cheap copper. All you can do is try using it with the expander head not screwed on properly, expand it a bit and wind the head on a bit further each time until it is fully on. Without doing this, my expander will totally destroy most 3/8 pipes.
Don't forget to de-burr the pipes properly first.
If all else fails use a block and punch like we used to in the old days, its often quicker.;)

Andy

eggs
13-11-2008, 01:25 AM
If all else fails use a block and punch like we used to in the old days, its often quicker.;)

Andy

.......or become a coil king:D

no swaging, no brazing and no purging.

Personally I hate coils, but they do make sense for some people.

Cheers

Eggs

platinumfreeze
13-11-2008, 02:41 AM
I've always used a regular swage kit and never had any of those problems. But I'd really like to have one of these kits. I'm just to cheap.

Tube Expander/Swager Kit


http://www.johnstonesupply.com/DesktopModules/webStore/Thumbnail.aspx?IP=/catimages/4959.jpg&IW=100&alias=www.johnstonesupply.com/corp

dan wong
13-11-2008, 09:53 AM
I've always used a regular swage kit and never had any of those problems. But I'd really like to have one of these kits. I'm just to cheap.

Tube Expander/Swager Kit


http://www.johnstonesupply.com/DesktopModules/webStore/Thumbnail.aspx?IP=/catimages/4959.jpg&IW=100&alias=www.johnstonesupply.com/corp

Defininately get one of these.(I have a hydraulic one) Once you have one, you will wonder how you ever get along with it. Worth its weight in gold.

nike123
13-11-2008, 01:06 PM
Hi,

Im looking for a decent swaging kit,
Ive had the block and yoke type, which takes too much effort and sometimes gets stuck,
and I've also got a tube expander, but without heating, it cracks 3/8'',1/4'' pipe,

Any suggestions?

Cheers

I have this one (https://www.flowline.net/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=275-FSC) for small pipes expanding and flaring. Works like charm.
If you have hard drawn pipe you need to annealed it ( to heat at temperature more than 700°C) before expansion!
For bigger diameter pipes, I recommend this (http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Model-S-Tube-Expander)!

Chill'D
13-11-2008, 07:40 PM
thanks for the replys,

All i use is coils, but its hard to get some pipe runs in one go :D

the only way ive found of swaging small pipe with the tube expanders is to heat the copper while in use.

looks like its back to couplers :rolleyes: