f-gas exam questions

[Peter_1]

Does someone have sample questions which are questioned on the f-gas exams?

[Grizzly]

Peter
By f-gas exams?
Do you mean the safe handling certification
Or our trade exams?
If it is the f-gas ones then it becomes irrelevant as it's an open book exam!
Well the C.I.T.B one is.
The City & Guilds one is harder as it does require some previous knowledge of "Fridge Work"
Grizzly

[Peter_1]

To comply with EN378 Grizzly
But perhaps some samples of both then.
What do they ask in th CITB? Only questions regarding safe gas handling or also technical questions as 'what happens with the SH and SC when there's a leak?'

We have to go to the central exam commission next Monday in Brussels (2 of us against 14 others who made all the original 200 questions) to argue and ventilate our huge frustrations about the actual exams.
'When was the Kyoto protocol voted?' is one of them. This is not a relevant question at all, at least not for me.

Thanks

[Grizzly]

Peter
I purposely did not reply in the hope some of our more learned members would answer.
Personnaly I think we are on the same wavelength here.
We all had to start somewhere but the gap between the minimum requirement and proper training is huge.
Grizzly

[Peter_1]

Still nobody has passed his exams and can share some information here?

[Quality]

There are a few technical refrigeration questions but also quite a few on gwp Of certain refrigerants and pressure testing. I did an on line exam hence I can not remember the exact questions but some of which I thought were totaly pointless. 40 questions time allowed 80 mins, but since its closed book you either know the answer or you don`t so it only took about 15 -20 mins .

[Peter_1]

Were there multiple-choice or open answers?
Can you remember some of the questions concerning the practical side of our job and more about teh theoretical part (not law) like log p/h charts?
Is this database somewhere available? The database in Belgium can be downloaded for free.

[Quality]

It was multi choice 4 options per question there were a coulpe on pressure enthalpy charts such as where would you find super heated refrigerant or where on a system you would expect to find a specific point that were marked on a chart in the question. Nothing too technical. I doubt the question bank is available but let us know if you find one

[marc5180]

Old Gas Bottle posted the other day that he has only just passed it so maybe here will be able to help out if he see's the post.

[Quality]

Just had a relapse:D The f gas questions I am recalling cover these areas:-
SI system of measurement units I.E Kelvin ,Kg etc
Operation of vapour compression cycle
Components fitted to vapour compression cycle I.E Tev ,Suction Acumalator function
Particulars of zeotropic blends
Periodic leak testing and system maintainance logs
Refrigerant Recover & Charging Methods
Regulations & Standards

I hope this some good

[old gas bottle]

hi peter,

tried to pm you but your mailbox is full :eek:

[Peter_1]

Sorry, just emptied it a little.

[Quality]

Try This

http://uk.sitestat.com/cag/cag/s?uk.become_a_centre.qualifications_explained.subjects.construction_amp_building.refrigeration_and_a ir_conditioning.level_2_award_in_f-gas_regulations.pdf.2079_sample_questions_for_web_v1&ns_type=pdf&ns_url=http://www.cityandguilds.com/documents/2079_sample_questions_for_web_v1.pdf

[paulwild]

thanks for the link a good insite?

[CONROD]

C+G 2079 F-Gas, multiple choice, 40 Questions, 80 minutes, goto to C+G website for sample questions.

[Tony]

Hi all,

just had a look at the sample questions provided by City and Guilds. Have a look at this one,


Reference 08.01
For every one degree Celsius that the evaporating temperature is increased, cooling capacity
a) increases by 3% and energy use increases by 3%
b) increases by 3% and energy use decreases by 3%
c) decreases by 3% and energy use increases by 3%
d) decreases by 3% and energy use decreases by 3%.

Their model answer for this sample question is (b)

Who agrees?

[Quality]

I would have said A

[Peter_1]

It depends how you look at it, we had a similar question in Belgium and had to change it.
If you increase evaporating temperature, then cooling capacity of the compressor decreases but cooling capacity of evaporator increases due to a bigger DT.
The question is not complete enough in my opinion.
Who agrees?

[Quality]

Exactly , It depends on the situation the question is refering to You can bet there are several other questions that are similarly invalid

[thisname]

Erm, increase in evap temp means a reduction in evaporator cooling capacity (obviously!)

Increase in evap temp means an increase in compressor cooling capacity - if evap is big enough!

[CONROD]

Have'nt you just contradicted yourself!!

[Quality]

Have'nt you just contradicted yourself!!
Yes obviously;)

[robin r33 gtr]

If this is the type of questions asked I think I need to do some reading up. How are others preparing for this?

My boss says we are not going to do the course until we have to.

[Shaji Sylvia]

Pls Check on 2079 level 2 award in f-gas regulation

[rbh1980]

i am in the process of booking my f gas 2079 course, 1 days practical and theory and an online exam. i would welcome any 'heads up' on questions and answers that other engineers have already done. the exam is on the 11th march and i am quite nervous about failing as it is imperitive to my business that i pass and obtain my refcom number. any help would be greatfully recieved.

are there any links to sites whereby questions example questions can be seen or even a mock exam can be taken.

me thinks i may have to some reading up.....again.

thanks, rob.

[taz24]

i am in the process of booking my f gas 2079 course, 1 days practical and theory and an online exam. i would welcome any 'heads up' on questions and answers that other engineers have already done. the exam is on the 11th march and i am quite nervous about failing as it is imperitive to my business that i pass and obtain my refcom number. any help would be greatfully recieved.

are there any links to sites whereby questions example questions can be seen or even a mock exam can be taken.

me thinks i may have to some reading up.....again.

thanks, rob.


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taz.

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[Lman]

Sample questions are on the city & guilds we site

[Lman]

sorry that should have been web lol

[freezetech]

i think you are all underestimating yourselves i quite new to refridgeration but took this exam with not half the knowledge of you guys but studied the book and passed it was nice to get it out of the way and start work on refrigeration

[spimps]

Did mine last September,the companies running the courses and exams don't want you to fail so they do good preparatory work so you are ready for the exam.
Tip1.when you do the 45 (i think) multiple choice questions you have the course book which has all the relevant technical stuff in which you can consult.
2 Keep a list of all the answers ie a b c or d and then if you get any wrong you know what your origional answer was,they give you a clean answer sheet for you to correct mistakes on.
I got two wrong and couldn't beleive the stupid answers I went with first time.
Gen up on the mollier diagrams before and it will be easy.
Practical is no problem.

[taz24]

Did mine last September,the companies running the courses and exams don't want you to fail so they do good preparatory work so you are ready for the exam.
Tip1.when you do the 45 (i think) multiple choice questions you have the course book which has all the relevant technical stuff in which you can consult.
2 Keep a list of all the answers ie a b c or d and then if you get any wrong you know what your origional answer was,they give you a clean answer sheet for you to correct mistakes on.
I got two wrong and couldn't beleive the stupid answers I went with first time.
Gen up on the mollier diagrams before and it will be easy.
Practical is no problem.


Simps it sounds like you did the CITB version.

The C&G one is closed book on a computer.

You will never get the same question in the same order and then the answers change places as well.

So taking notes in a C&G exams is pointless.

Cheers taz

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[Kev The Tool]

Hi Guys,
Passed my F-Gas yesterday did a 2 day C & G course, day 1 was spent doing the practical, day 2 the exam, could have been condensed into 1 day. i wouldn't say it was difficult, however you will need to swat up on GWP of refrigerants, 22, 134a, 407c, 404a, 410a. pressure enthalpy diagrams is a must, only conditions around the cycle, not really plotting out systems or working out COP. i did get about 4 of the sample questions on the C & G website. working out the percentages i think i got about 5 wrong out of 40,so i'm happy. the practical was pretty straight forward reclaim gas, replace a length of pipe, pressure test in accordance with BSEN 378, regas and make any adjustments necessary, the whole test is pretty technical and straight forward and if you are competant you should have no problems passing. hope this helps.:cool:

[paul thompson]

hi kev the tool . where did you take your c&g ( i did mine at motor climate ) B,HAM practical at artic hereford

[spimps]

Simps it sounds like you did the CITB version.

The C&G one is closed book on a computer.

You will never get the same question in the same order and then the answers change places as well.

So taking notes in a C&G exams is pointless.

Cheers taz

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Yes i did,there were ten of us sitting it and we all got different questions,as I said you get a second chance,if you fail that there is an interview during which they seek to ensure you have the underpinning knowledge.
One guy who was working for a major company did struggle and went right through the process,very good on the practical he got there in the end though.
Pretty hot(exscuse the punn) on the brazing test.
Did mine with Business edge.

[Kev The Tool]

Hi,
did mine at south birmingham college, Bordesley Green, Just by the blues ground. John Mousley was the tutor he is a legend.

[paul thompson]

Hi,
did mine at south birmingham college, Bordesley Green, Just by the blues ground. John Mousley was the tutor he is a legend.
are you a blue nose or a villa fan . :D

[Kev The Tool]

Hi paul,
villa fan, not one eyed though so i dont mind if blues do well.

[paul thompson]

;)
Hi paul,
villa fan, not one eyed though so i dont mind if blues do well.
;)im villa aswell. good result today. was going to go today but had to give my ticket away . had to finish off a coldroom install off .customer wanted it working .i.m not fussed either way about the blues .:p

[spimps]

;)
;)im villa aswell. good result today. was going to go today but had to give my ticket away . had to finish off a coldroom install off .customer wanted it working .i.m not fussed either way about the blues .:p
We (Lincoln City) have Chris Herd on loan from villa who looks rather useful.Also a young lad Baker who is injured at the minute.

[Bachuss]

If this is the type of questions asked I think I need to do some reading up. How are others preparing for this?

My boss says we are not going to do the course until we have to.

I'm sitting my 2079 in two weeks, to help my prepare for this I'm biteing my nails and trying to find adult size nappies :rolleyes:

but seriously I just trying to read over my notes/handouts/refrigeration books as much as I can:confused: I hear loads of people are failing and maybe I shouldn't have said that cuz its making ME nervous

[richardlister]

hi there , what book is this and where can you get it.thanks
my old citb refrigerant handling is about to expire so need to look at this very soon

[cadwaladr]

yes need to sort mine out will do it near autumn the three day coarse sounds the best,fail to prepare ,prepare to fail!

[Linds]

I was told while doing my city and guilds this week that anyone who does not have the new qualification after June is not legally allowed to work on a system.
The city and guilds online exam is a closed book exam.