ultralo1
14-10-2008, 01:14 PM
In trying to further my understanding of the cascade systems that I work on, I have a question regarding mixing the refrigerants. The old systems used R500 and R503. Sometimes R290 or pentane was added. Now we are using R508b and R23 in the 2nd/low stage with a variety of other refrigerants added in small quantities. A variety of "normal" refrigerants in the 1st/high stage mostly mixed as a "coktail". Every manufacturer has their own unique mix for both stages. So this gets to my questions.
How does an engineer calculate the final product of a mix? Is it a mathmatical formula that gives exacts or does it start as a formula and then gets "tweaked" in prototyping? How are the consituent(sp?) gases selected for the end product? When adding a small amount of refrigerant in the mix to aid in oil misability how does this effect the final temp? When bleeding gas from the high/discharge side of the compressor are the gases still mixed in the correct proportions or are you fractionating out the mix? What are the gas physics "laws" that I need to understand to work with these mixes?
For those that dont know me. I repair, rebuild, and maintain a variety of different scientific refrigeration systems on a university campus.
Thanks
How does an engineer calculate the final product of a mix? Is it a mathmatical formula that gives exacts or does it start as a formula and then gets "tweaked" in prototyping? How are the consituent(sp?) gases selected for the end product? When adding a small amount of refrigerant in the mix to aid in oil misability how does this effect the final temp? When bleeding gas from the high/discharge side of the compressor are the gases still mixed in the correct proportions or are you fractionating out the mix? What are the gas physics "laws" that I need to understand to work with these mixes?
For those that dont know me. I repair, rebuild, and maintain a variety of different scientific refrigeration systems on a university campus.
Thanks