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marc5180
08-05-2006, 06:30 PM
Hi guys
im after a book called Modern Refrigeration and Air conditioning one of the engineers at work reccommended it to me. He said that it had over 1000 pages and he paid 40 pounds for it. Iv been looking for it everywhere but there seems to be a few of the books around, some of them have 250 pages some have 700 pages and some have 1200 pages but they all seem to be at least 60 pounds and the author is american? So id imagine the units and measurements are in American. Has anyone got this book for sale or know where i can get it a little cheaper ( although if its as good as the engineer says then il pay 60 pounds) i just dont want to spend 60pounds on abook and find its the wrong one. Any help would be appreciated
thanks in advance

:)

bill1983
08-05-2006, 10:42 PM
hi marc the book i think your freind is referring to is a hefty tome indeed and has been recommended to all our apprentices attending college on an nvq2 course. it is written by three gentlemen called andrew d. althouse, carl h. turnquist and alfred f. bracciano. it is published by GW and its catelogue number is ISBN 1-56637-724-2. you can go into any good bookshop and they will be able to order it if you give them that number. it has been reissued every few years. the book is ok, but not one i would carry around as a reference book in the field due to it's size around 2 1/2" thick. i would recommend roy dossats book due to its compact but comprehensive coverage of refrigeration. i have referred to this book so often that i am on my 2nd copy and nearly ready for a third due to it's tired and dogeared pages. i can't remember how much it is but i would definately recommend it as a library starter.

thermokool
07-08-2006, 09:02 PM
Modern Refrigeration and Air conditioning can be got from here

http://www.dvd.co.uk/product2.asp?id=1590702808
or here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1590702808/026-6994129-8735656?v=glance&n=266239&dev-t=D10SBASHC4I9Q1

Roy J. Dossat (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/026-6994129-8735656?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books-uk&field-keywords=Roy%20J.%20Dossat) book Principles of Refrigeration
here
http://www.tesco.com/books/product.aspx?R=0130272701
or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0130272701/026-6994129-8735656?v=glance&n=266239&dev-t=D10SBASHC4I9Q1

both are good

simon

US Iceman
07-08-2006, 10:29 PM
I would highly recommend both books. I received them during some formal training sessions and schooling many years ago.

They must be good... The books keep getting updated and reprinted.;)

nh3wizard
08-08-2006, 04:25 PM
I dont know how useful this book would, but for the U.S. members I have found this book helpful.

"Industrial Refrigeration Handbook" by Wilbert F. Stoecker

thermokool
09-08-2006, 06:03 PM
They must be good... The books keep getting updated and reprinted.;)[/quote]

i do think people should read old ones sometimes so they can see what happened in the old days

i find this most interesting what we WERE :eek: allowed to do and cant now

simon

Clivo
13-08-2006, 08:13 PM
Try a search on ebay under air conditioning I bought one last year think I paid 30 for it well worth the money

Clivo

pendlesteve
14-08-2006, 01:26 PM
This book is available in the UK from a refrigeration wholesaler. If it's allowed you can contact me by e-mail.

US Iceman
14-08-2006, 04:17 PM
i do think people should read old ones sometimes so they can see what happened in the old days


Quite right. It also provides a historical viewpoint of how some things also remain constant.

It is interesting to see how some "new ideas" are re-invented, when actually they are essentially "old ideas" that are re-discovered also.

Sometimes the old books are much better too.:rolleyes:

Renato RR
17-08-2006, 12:46 PM
Old books are writen with patience.The writer think how to explain some procedure or calculation method.Now all is copy paste method.

Renato

thermokool
24-08-2006, 05:53 PM
old books are good iceman but dont use r11 to flush the system through
what are the rules in the usa ?

simon

johnyfreon
19-10-2006, 04:32 PM
I dont know how useful this book would, but for the U.S. members I have found this book helpful.

"Industrial Refrigeration Handbook" by Wilbert F. Stoecker

I did not like that book, highly un-practical, maybe a good book for designers or engineers, it offers very little to a wrench monkey like me :D
by the way I'm selling my copy, like new for $40
paid $80.

Josip
19-10-2006, 09:44 PM
Hi, Johny***** :)


I did not like that book, highly un-practical, maybe a good book for designers or engineers, it offers very little to a wrench monkey like me :D
by the way I'm selling my copy, like new for $40
paid $80.

I wan to buy that book, send me PM

Best regards, Josip :)

johnyfreon
20-10-2006, 06:47 PM
you got mail!!

qsqq
16-11-2006, 06:35 AM
look on,i'm a new visitor

Josip
16-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Hi, Quqq :)


look on,i'm a new visitor

Welcome to RE,

Best regards, Josip :)

Peter_1
16-11-2006, 09:45 PM
Josip, one of the best books about Industrial Refrigeration, just something for you.

Josip
17-11-2006, 12:10 AM
Hi, Peter_1 :)


Josip, one of the best books about Industrial Refrigeration, just something for you.

Just bought Stoecker's book from Johny***** it is in my hands now. Now need time for reading of almost 800 pages;)

Best regards, Josip :)

US Iceman
17-11-2006, 12:19 AM
Hi Josip,

That should keep you busy for at least... 1 day. I doubt it is has much new for you.:)

It is a good book that I use it for reference.

Josip
17-11-2006, 09:23 PM
Hi, US Iceman :)


Hi Josip,

That should keep you busy for at least... 1 day. I doubt it is has much new for you.:)

It is a good book that I use it for reference.

Nice said:D with your english maybe, but with mine;)

Best regards, Josip :)

johnyfreon
19-11-2006, 11:49 PM
Josip, I'm glad you got the book!!
I think my all time favorite book is principles of refrigeration by Roy Dossat and Thomas J Horan, one of the first book I bought and still the best one.

Pooh
20-11-2006, 01:56 AM
Dossat is the book I use but it must be about time somebody produced a new one, I used Dossat 30 years ago when I was a student and am still using it as a tutor. I have the second edition which was in SI units which for me is great but the latest version has both and gets a bit confusing.

Ian

johnyfreon
20-11-2006, 05:39 PM
Dossat is the book I use but it must be about time somebody produced a new one, I used Dossat 30 years ago when I was a student and am still using it as a tutor. I have the second edition which was in SI units which for me is great but the latest version has both and gets a bit confusing.

Ian

I can only hope one day the USA give up on the imperial system and switches ove SI, I dont understand why we are still working with such a primitive system.

frank
20-11-2006, 10:33 PM
I can only hope one day the USA give up on the imperial system and switches ove SI, I dont understand why we are still working with such a primitive system.

At least the US is consistant. :)

Consider the UK.

It is illegal to sell food products in anything but metric, but:

We drink pints
We buy Gallons of fuel
We drive to MPH
Baby's are born and declared - 8lbs 3oz etc not kg
we measure in metric but tape measures still show inches
Coinage is Metric
I am 12stone 3 lbs :o (just short for my body mass index)
Fridge pipe is imperial (who has asked for a roll of 6.4mm pipe?) but plumbing pipes are metric
We buy eggs in Dozens
Recipes call for 250g of this and that?
Etc Etc.

Tony Blair - sort it out :rolleyes: :mad: :D

Brian_UK
20-11-2006, 11:54 PM
Tony Blair - sort it out :rolleyes: :mad: :DYeah, like that's going to happen Frank.

Pooh
21-11-2006, 01:26 AM
are you aware in the not to distant future it will be illegal in the UK to sell anything in imperial measurements you wont even be allowed to buy an imperial spanner it will have to be stamped with a metric size.

Ian

jack_vn
14-03-2008, 08:25 AM
i am a student in vn like some students in there we are very poor and:( we haven't enough money to by some refrigeration books so that we very thak when you send for us about this book thanks !!!!!!!!!!!

jack_vn
14-03-2008, 08:46 AM
can i download free ?????